Followers (Of Christ),
In less than one week, you will be under her feet. I do not wish to discourage people from being interested in prophecy from scriptures,...not one bit. I rather highly encourage people to study scriptures, prophecy, history, science and embrace all that is true while you still can and it is all facing risk of being censored by being re-written in an age of founding statues in America being torn down. Yet, in doing so, you are encouraged to have your own mind and independent reasoning about things to know that science in largest part where factual and not conclusive from mere opinions...and the Bible, do not conflict. Nor does God lie.
I like to study about God, his word and Christ prophecies in part due to where I am. In the Rockies, near where Westcliffe Colorado of Custer County and even some places in Fremont County is a "Dark Skies" area of spectacular views of night skies and stars very few places in this Country can boast of. If you like stars at night...this is the place. You are hereby put on alert to look at the stars in days in "Dark Skies".
Don't elevate science opinions as always totally right or accurate (people who thought of themselves as scientist with institutional religious power said not long ago the earth was flat. Then again, some religions still try to say that believe it or not), and also realize the scriptures when translated across the divide of languages, is capable of being misunderstood in a first glance in different languages. Frankly, is often severely misunderstood. To "study" the Bible, often means we must "think", feel it out, and pray to have guidance as to what the meanings are. The Bible is not Pretty Good Privacy (PGP) encryption that is all jumbled up and garbled, it is capable of being learned, understood and figured out with patience and hearts intents to seek truth. It is also like a relationship, because it specifically IS a relationship...with God who's word became flesh. As with any relationship, it takes time to get to know the other person and actually relate and begin to understand over time. Even then, the mystery never fully ends and one is still always learning about the other person, God, and his words. That way with Bible prophecy too, we can do a literal read and think we know and listen to others who believe they understand it, only to years later realize, ...no, we really did not know at all. Not all of it yet at least. Countless times I have been proven wrong to be listening to prophecy pundits, and later came to a different conclusion following a more studied and careful analysis. The only prophecies I have not been wrong about in interpreting yet, was the first coming of Christ. The objective and subjective evidence is he is real, and really did come and is who he says he is. Subjectively, this is my faith and my fulfillment of Revelations 12 as far as I can take it, and my own unique personalized experiences to know yes, he really is who he says and is real. I can even say "thank God", and mean it. Yet, we again for a second time this year are facing a prophecy/cosmic innuendo after the eclipse we just had,...this time on September 23rd, 2017 as "alignment" causing many to wonder if we stand at thresh of a major event.
Is there however, reason to believe the upcoming September 23rd, 2017 planetary alignments or cosmic events are the fulfillment of Revelations 12? In a "first glance" I could say "Hmmm, well, the Bible does say in Revelations 12 that such and such constellation will be there...and we will then see under her feet all these things...and...".
The Signs In The Heavens ?
If you study the above on your computer, and look the Virgo's feet and then study it a few minutes along with the Revelation 12 scriptures, you can easily understand why some are wondering if such event and date is "really it!". It is after all, thought provoking and stimulates your curiosity and intrigue. My point is, you can easily understand why many followers of Christ may think what they might think and not be too quick to dismiss this consideration of a possible prophecy raw in your face. Especially since we just had a major total eclipse last month and this now follows it, ...sort of the ol' one two double punch. Still...
Does Science And "That Old Time Religion" Contradict?
Actually not. They do not contradict. It is rather a question of how long it takes us to figure it out what The Bible was and is actually saying. There was many issues I grew up thinking were "opposites" or contradictions, then later I was humbled by God with new knowledge and insights to realize it was only our perceptions of words that contradicted, and that humans err. Darwin believed in God, Einstein believed in God. Yet so often we are not told the whole story about a scientist, or what his beliefs are, anymore than we are often not told the whole story about translations of the Bible and what the words actually mean. I went through a period where I even wondered if the Bible was true, or filled with fantasy material to supplement it's readability and capture our imaginations. I know better now, it is true, and what I never fully lost sight of, was my reality of relationship with God. Yet we must still "study" the Bible in full research mode to keep finding out how true it is, and realize it is not "myths" and it is all about one thing....pointing us to Jesus Christ. If you get nothing else out of it, it is that the whole orientation of the Bible is to get us to see the coming, life, crucifixion, and a return again of Jesus Christ. Thus...the return has us glued to our seats...
Main thing here, is the Bible and science is not conflicting, and do not let others tell you what Revelations 12 says, when you should read it for yourself to know what it says. It does not say anything about "The end of the world" September 23rd, or frankly, anything at all happening September 23rd. There is a lot of dis-info, mis-info and pure hype floating around out there, please do not confuse what others say it says(Revelations 12), as somehow being what it says.
You can look at pictures above, and see the potential for "ridicule" of how some artist tried to portray Revelations 12. The image directly above is from year 1545 by John Bale, attempting to depict two different Churches (Gods/The Saints, and the Devil or the old Dragons), published by a Thomas East. Revelations12 is after all, written in obscurity it seems, and graphically describing all kinds of things most of us just don't understand. Fortunately, the first picture above on the stars, actually does help put the prophecy into much more clear perspective, and I am able to look at it and go "ahhh, yes, I see the imagery now is clear, and yes, it is under her feet just like the Bible describes". Yes I do see this has major significance to Revelation 12. Still...
At The End Of The Day...
Still. At the end of the day, I am forced to look at the prophecy in Revelations 12, and wonder if "this is it!"? Is the significance of this September 23, 2017 as real as "they" say it is? Not to break anyones hype heart here, but realize something. The planetary alignments people are talking about....have happened nearly September 23, on or about, the past few years too and there was no end of the world, return of Christ or anything immediately dire after those days in years past either. Nor does the Bible say that. Besides, there is still several major prophecies in symbios relationship to the whole package of end times descriptions that have yet still to happen that don't support this immediate sense of urgency just yet. I am not seeing "the activating mechanisms"of just this routine and ordinary alingment as having a special significance. Unless, a world war breaks out by USA and North Korea situation, then sure, we can see the expedient potentials and rapid issues, not all pleasant or good either, and while there is little doubt those events will occur, we don't know when, or what the real outcome is. Do not be too fast to place it to Revelations 12. It would certainly grease the ramp to many other prophecised events and then, well...it begins to shape real fast. There has been all kinds of wars and theaters in the past that seemed like it would set it all off, that just did not, and three world wars is a given, if not a plan by designers among men to create and finalize new world order, not the end of the world yet. Here is my suggestion,...affix no specific significance to this alingment, no differently than the prior years it happened as in the strictest sense of history and fact, it is not very different than years in the past and....you are still here.
The above said the alignment is not very different on its face....I am not out to ruin anything for anyone. In fact, I would ask you plan to enjoy it, by simply stepping outside at night September 23rd, and look at the skies and still know....they are indeed our signs, it is still living science, and still powerful prophecy as well as dynamic history but that we need to be keeping our hearts tuned to God for. Look at the stars, but seek the truth of meanings in your heart where the evidence of God can be found. The link to Revelations 12 is found clicking here.
Be your own scientist, and your own Bible researcher asking God to show you the truth and the way. Put yourself in the middle of it all, and navigate the stars with your relationship with Jesus Christ, asking him to lead you on a life long journey of truth seeking. At the end of the night of September 23, 2017 of star gazing, the one fact and awe you can come to...is knowing God has put us here for a reason. A reason of getting to know him and he is not so far as the stars, when you invite him into your heart and life asking him to lead you. That much is real, and close.
The Big Picture
Revelations 12, is believed to have been written by John, until we see evidence otherwise. As with so many prophecy scripts, it has a past, present and future context. It was written to paint the big picture about the whole scheme of things, from the past war in heaven, the dark-side cast out, that the human race would receive a Saviour and did that is eligible to be saved through Christ and then called Saints through his blood, a period of apostasy, future (or currently developing) kingdoms and powers, and the dark-side condemned to this earth for a final battle and that persecutes the Saints and that the Saints, of those who live have salvation and end of the age down to a chapter revealing there is two churches if you will, the one with Followers of Christ, and the other that takes all the others, apparently the world majority, down the path of destruction. Keep in context it says nothing about "September 23rd", though the constellations are clearly described, and clearly tell us how accurate and powerful prophecy is when starts can describe the current and developing kingdoms of this world. It is deeply fascinating indeed. Yet be assured, September 24th comes, as will future years. Take September 23rd as a "wake up call" to start seeking God, and seeking out how he wants you to live....not as the day it all ends. Look at the stars, re-commit your heart to him, his awe, his power and soak it up that his mysteries are alive and well and in process as we speak.
What is under Virgos feet, is you, and your call to God and that much I ask you to think about, the stars are distant, yet are you as close to God as you feel you should be? Verse 11 is what you can actually apply to you personally. It reads in NIV as "11 They triumphed over him by the blood of the Lamb and by the word of their testimony; they did not love their lives so much as to shrink from death". Do not fear, and do not fear September 23, 2017.
As you stand under her feet, the Zodiac constellation of Virgo in the old worlds myths about immortals was the last of the immortals who abandoned earth despite cast out to here, near the wheat harvest time. Look even higher than that to God as that is to whom you seek, are with, and will go to, and you won't be dying from the world ending September 23rd, 2017 because Revelations 12 has made clear, as unclear as it all reads...that we have already triumphed, through Jesus Christ, and it his kingdom to come that will survive past the new world order emergings and, and the terrible end of it when it eventually comes. For now, thank God for the victory you have already.
Blessings,
MMM
In less than one week, you will be under her feet. I do not wish to discourage people from being interested in prophecy from scriptures,...not one bit. I rather highly encourage people to study scriptures, prophecy, history, science and embrace all that is true while you still can and it is all facing risk of being censored by being re-written in an age of founding statues in America being torn down. Yet, in doing so, you are encouraged to have your own mind and independent reasoning about things to know that science in largest part where factual and not conclusive from mere opinions...and the Bible, do not conflict. Nor does God lie.
I like to study about God, his word and Christ prophecies in part due to where I am. In the Rockies, near where Westcliffe Colorado of Custer County and even some places in Fremont County is a "Dark Skies" area of spectacular views of night skies and stars very few places in this Country can boast of. If you like stars at night...this is the place. You are hereby put on alert to look at the stars in days in "Dark Skies".
Don't elevate science opinions as always totally right or accurate (people who thought of themselves as scientist with institutional religious power said not long ago the earth was flat. Then again, some religions still try to say that believe it or not), and also realize the scriptures when translated across the divide of languages, is capable of being misunderstood in a first glance in different languages. Frankly, is often severely misunderstood. To "study" the Bible, often means we must "think", feel it out, and pray to have guidance as to what the meanings are. The Bible is not Pretty Good Privacy (PGP) encryption that is all jumbled up and garbled, it is capable of being learned, understood and figured out with patience and hearts intents to seek truth. It is also like a relationship, because it specifically IS a relationship...with God who's word became flesh. As with any relationship, it takes time to get to know the other person and actually relate and begin to understand over time. Even then, the mystery never fully ends and one is still always learning about the other person, God, and his words. That way with Bible prophecy too, we can do a literal read and think we know and listen to others who believe they understand it, only to years later realize, ...no, we really did not know at all. Not all of it yet at least. Countless times I have been proven wrong to be listening to prophecy pundits, and later came to a different conclusion following a more studied and careful analysis. The only prophecies I have not been wrong about in interpreting yet, was the first coming of Christ. The objective and subjective evidence is he is real, and really did come and is who he says he is. Subjectively, this is my faith and my fulfillment of Revelations 12 as far as I can take it, and my own unique personalized experiences to know yes, he really is who he says and is real. I can even say "thank God", and mean it. Yet, we again for a second time this year are facing a prophecy/cosmic innuendo after the eclipse we just had,...this time on September 23rd, 2017 as "alignment" causing many to wonder if we stand at thresh of a major event.
Is there however, reason to believe the upcoming September 23rd, 2017 planetary alignments or cosmic events are the fulfillment of Revelations 12? In a "first glance" I could say "Hmmm, well, the Bible does say in Revelations 12 that such and such constellation will be there...and we will then see under her feet all these things...and...".
The Signs In The Heavens ?
If you study the above on your computer, and look the Virgo's feet and then study it a few minutes along with the Revelation 12 scriptures, you can easily understand why some are wondering if such event and date is "really it!". It is after all, thought provoking and stimulates your curiosity and intrigue. My point is, you can easily understand why many followers of Christ may think what they might think and not be too quick to dismiss this consideration of a possible prophecy raw in your face. Especially since we just had a major total eclipse last month and this now follows it, ...sort of the ol' one two double punch. Still...
Does Science And "That Old Time Religion" Contradict?
Actually not. They do not contradict. It is rather a question of how long it takes us to figure it out what The Bible was and is actually saying. There was many issues I grew up thinking were "opposites" or contradictions, then later I was humbled by God with new knowledge and insights to realize it was only our perceptions of words that contradicted, and that humans err. Darwin believed in God, Einstein believed in God. Yet so often we are not told the whole story about a scientist, or what his beliefs are, anymore than we are often not told the whole story about translations of the Bible and what the words actually mean. I went through a period where I even wondered if the Bible was true, or filled with fantasy material to supplement it's readability and capture our imaginations. I know better now, it is true, and what I never fully lost sight of, was my reality of relationship with God. Yet we must still "study" the Bible in full research mode to keep finding out how true it is, and realize it is not "myths" and it is all about one thing....pointing us to Jesus Christ. If you get nothing else out of it, it is that the whole orientation of the Bible is to get us to see the coming, life, crucifixion, and a return again of Jesus Christ. Thus...the return has us glued to our seats...
Main thing here, is the Bible and science is not conflicting, and do not let others tell you what Revelations 12 says, when you should read it for yourself to know what it says. It does not say anything about "The end of the world" September 23rd, or frankly, anything at all happening September 23rd. There is a lot of dis-info, mis-info and pure hype floating around out there, please do not confuse what others say it says(Revelations 12), as somehow being what it says.
You can look at pictures above, and see the potential for "ridicule" of how some artist tried to portray Revelations 12. The image directly above is from year 1545 by John Bale, attempting to depict two different Churches (Gods/The Saints, and the Devil or the old Dragons), published by a Thomas East. Revelations12 is after all, written in obscurity it seems, and graphically describing all kinds of things most of us just don't understand. Fortunately, the first picture above on the stars, actually does help put the prophecy into much more clear perspective, and I am able to look at it and go "ahhh, yes, I see the imagery now is clear, and yes, it is under her feet just like the Bible describes". Yes I do see this has major significance to Revelation 12. Still...
At The End Of The Day...
Still. At the end of the day, I am forced to look at the prophecy in Revelations 12, and wonder if "this is it!"? Is the significance of this September 23, 2017 as real as "they" say it is? Not to break anyones hype heart here, but realize something. The planetary alignments people are talking about....have happened nearly September 23, on or about, the past few years too and there was no end of the world, return of Christ or anything immediately dire after those days in years past either. Nor does the Bible say that. Besides, there is still several major prophecies in symbios relationship to the whole package of end times descriptions that have yet still to happen that don't support this immediate sense of urgency just yet. I am not seeing "the activating mechanisms"of just this routine and ordinary alingment as having a special significance. Unless, a world war breaks out by USA and North Korea situation, then sure, we can see the expedient potentials and rapid issues, not all pleasant or good either, and while there is little doubt those events will occur, we don't know when, or what the real outcome is. Do not be too fast to place it to Revelations 12. It would certainly grease the ramp to many other prophecised events and then, well...it begins to shape real fast. There has been all kinds of wars and theaters in the past that seemed like it would set it all off, that just did not, and three world wars is a given, if not a plan by designers among men to create and finalize new world order, not the end of the world yet. Here is my suggestion,...affix no specific significance to this alingment, no differently than the prior years it happened as in the strictest sense of history and fact, it is not very different than years in the past and....you are still here.
The above said the alignment is not very different on its face....I am not out to ruin anything for anyone. In fact, I would ask you plan to enjoy it, by simply stepping outside at night September 23rd, and look at the skies and still know....they are indeed our signs, it is still living science, and still powerful prophecy as well as dynamic history but that we need to be keeping our hearts tuned to God for. Look at the stars, but seek the truth of meanings in your heart where the evidence of God can be found. The link to Revelations 12 is found clicking here.
Be your own scientist, and your own Bible researcher asking God to show you the truth and the way. Put yourself in the middle of it all, and navigate the stars with your relationship with Jesus Christ, asking him to lead you on a life long journey of truth seeking. At the end of the night of September 23, 2017 of star gazing, the one fact and awe you can come to...is knowing God has put us here for a reason. A reason of getting to know him and he is not so far as the stars, when you invite him into your heart and life asking him to lead you. That much is real, and close.
The Big Picture
Revelations 12, is believed to have been written by John, until we see evidence otherwise. As with so many prophecy scripts, it has a past, present and future context. It was written to paint the big picture about the whole scheme of things, from the past war in heaven, the dark-side cast out, that the human race would receive a Saviour and did that is eligible to be saved through Christ and then called Saints through his blood, a period of apostasy, future (or currently developing) kingdoms and powers, and the dark-side condemned to this earth for a final battle and that persecutes the Saints and that the Saints, of those who live have salvation and end of the age down to a chapter revealing there is two churches if you will, the one with Followers of Christ, and the other that takes all the others, apparently the world majority, down the path of destruction. Keep in context it says nothing about "September 23rd", though the constellations are clearly described, and clearly tell us how accurate and powerful prophecy is when starts can describe the current and developing kingdoms of this world. It is deeply fascinating indeed. Yet be assured, September 24th comes, as will future years. Take September 23rd as a "wake up call" to start seeking God, and seeking out how he wants you to live....not as the day it all ends. Look at the stars, re-commit your heart to him, his awe, his power and soak it up that his mysteries are alive and well and in process as we speak.
What is under Virgos feet, is you, and your call to God and that much I ask you to think about, the stars are distant, yet are you as close to God as you feel you should be? Verse 11 is what you can actually apply to you personally. It reads in NIV as "11 They triumphed over him by the blood of the Lamb and by the word of their testimony; they did not love their lives so much as to shrink from death". Do not fear, and do not fear September 23, 2017.
As you stand under her feet, the Zodiac constellation of Virgo in the old worlds myths about immortals was the last of the immortals who abandoned earth despite cast out to here, near the wheat harvest time. Look even higher than that to God as that is to whom you seek, are with, and will go to, and you won't be dying from the world ending September 23rd, 2017 because Revelations 12 has made clear, as unclear as it all reads...that we have already triumphed, through Jesus Christ, and it his kingdom to come that will survive past the new world order emergings and, and the terrible end of it when it eventually comes. For now, thank God for the victory you have already.
Blessings,
MMM
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